Comments on: Dig big back cracks http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/ Swedish humor travel in the nature with useful odditys, love, food, photo Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:24:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: haylynn http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-7228 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:12:59 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-7228 :lol: you may be wondering why i am lol? its just that you sound like you can be going through the same terrible pain i am and for some realson thats makes me so happy to hear that someone else in this world may be suffering with the same pain in the back troubles as i. WOW i really hope we have the same mysterious back pain, i have gone everywhere tried everything and am willing to spend a great deal of money to get this fixed. i have done everything from cat scans to mri xrays and have gone to an otseopath...my treatments constists of pilates, yoga,acupunture, alexander tecnique,rolfing,massage,network spine analisis and more-nothing has help except i get a temporary relief when it cracks and it then will feel like it goes back into position. that unfortuntly only lasts a few minutes. i have learnt how to do this very slight adjustment on myself any where anytime. my days and nights consist of a nagging pain in between my shoulder blades, i have had this for about 6 years and no one can figure it out. i am basically at surrender to okay i will have this back pain for the rest of my life and im only 26. but the most frustrating part is no one can relate to me. no one can fix it, nothing works and people say things like oh i have back pain too, my shoulders get sore alot- and id love to say to them that sux but i have lived with this mystery for the last 7 years and every minute of everyday is painful. i have no known injuries to my back and the doctor sent me too a physcial therapy center which also didnt work...PLEASE HELP ME...email me asap. <strong>Lifecruiser: Ohhh, poor you... It sounds like you have a worse upper back than I have, my biggest problem is in the lower back. I can see that you really have tried almost everything. You may get nerves squeezed too as it sounds by your description. There is one thing though, that you don't mention at all, which surprises me: McKenzie exercises. That is the only thing that have helped me, even if it doesn't take away my back problem totally, it is GOLD to have when it's in the really acute phase. I found out abut it on the internet and bought this book about it: <a href="http://optp.com/index.cfm/pageid/203" rel="nofollow">Treat your own back</a> and started to try out the method. I very quickly found out that this helped me, so I introduced it to my physical therapist who wasn't educated on this, but asked a collegue (that was educated on the technique) about it and it was a go. I recommend you to buy the book and try it very careful too see if it can help you and maybe discuss it with a physical therapist too. I did it best by myself, but that can be individual. There is also one for the neck, which I recommend too. This is simple exercises, not hard to do at all. In te beginning it hurt some, but then we're used to pain so what's the difference? I could feel just after I've done the exercises a couple of times, that something happened! It was not like you had to do it for weeks before you know if it's doing some good - you know it very fast! I have the books in Swedish only otherwise I would have written down more from the book, but right now I don't have the time to translate! I maybe be back soon with some translation. I hope it will help you too, you really have an unbearable situation there. I'll keep in touch. Take care :-)</strong> :lol: you may be wondering why i am lol? its just that you sound like you can be going through the same terrible pain i am and for some realson thats makes me so happy to hear that someone else in this world may be suffering with the same pain in the back troubles as i. WOW i really hope we have the same mysterious back pain, i have gone everywhere tried everything and am willing to spend a great deal of money to get this fixed. i have done everything from cat scans to mri xrays and have gone to an otseopath…my treatments constists of pilates, yoga,acupunture, alexander tecnique,rolfing,massage,network spine analisis and more-nothing has help except i get a temporary relief when it cracks and it then will feel like it goes back into position. that unfortuntly only lasts a few minutes. i have learnt how to do this very slight adjustment on myself any where anytime. my days and nights consist of a nagging pain in between my shoulder blades, i have had this for about 6 years and no one can figure it out. i am basically at surrender to okay i will have this back pain for the rest of my life and im only 26. but the most frustrating part is no one can relate to me. no one can fix it, nothing works and people say things like oh i have back pain too, my shoulders get sore alot- and id love to say to them that sux but i have lived with this mystery for the last 7 years and every minute of everyday is painful. i have no known injuries to my back and the doctor sent me too a physcial therapy center which also didnt work…PLEASE HELP ME…email me asap.

Lifecruiser: Ohhh, poor you… It sounds like you have a worse upper back than I have, my biggest problem is in the lower back. I can see that you really have tried almost everything. You may get nerves squeezed too as it sounds by your description.

There is one thing though, that you don’t mention at all, which surprises me: McKenzie exercises. That is the only thing that have helped me, even if it doesn’t take away my back problem totally, it is GOLD to have when it’s in the really acute phase.

I found out abut it on the internet and bought this book about it: Treat your own back and started to try out the method. I very quickly found out that this helped me, so I introduced it to my physical therapist who wasn’t educated on this, but asked a collegue (that was educated on the technique) about it and it was a go.

I recommend you to buy the book and try it very careful too see if it can help you and maybe discuss it with a physical therapist too. I did it best by myself, but that can be individual. There is also one for the neck, which I recommend too.

This is simple exercises, not hard to do at all. In te beginning it hurt some, but then we’re used to pain so what’s the difference? I could feel just after I’ve done the exercises a couple of times, that something happened! It was not like you had to do it for weeks before you know if it’s doing some good - you know it very fast!

I have the books in Swedish only otherwise I would have written down more from the book, but right now I don’t have the time to translate! I maybe be back soon with some translation.

I hope it will help you too, you really have an unbearable situation there.

I’ll keep in touch.

Take care :-)

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by: Rose http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6893 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:47:05 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6893 I'll keep you in my prayers hun. :) <strong>Lifecruiser: Thanks :-)</strong> I’ll keep you in my prayers hun. :)

Lifecruiser: Thanks :-)

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by: Melli http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6868 Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:32:07 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6868 Ohhhhhh no! Is there nothing you can DO about this? Is this what comes of National Health Care? Can you go to someone else??? Pooooooor Mrs. Lifecruiser! This just makes me want to cryyyy! <strong>Lifecruiser: We'll see what they say on Tuesday. If they persist on me going there, I can't do much more, but I won't be able to go there for long, so it's wasted time and money for all involved. Maybe that's what's they need, to really be able to confirm that I can't go through it?</strong> Ohhhhhh no! Is there nothing you can DO about this? Is this what comes of National Health Care? Can you go to someone else??? Pooooooor Mrs. Lifecruiser! This just makes me want to cryyyy!

Lifecruiser: We’ll see what they say on Tuesday. If they persist on me going there, I can’t do much more, but I won’t be able to go there for long, so it’s wasted time and money for all involved. Maybe that’s what’s they need, to really be able to confirm that I can’t go through it?

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by: Sandy http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6852 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 11:08:08 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6852 Well that is just SAD...what happens to the people as they age then..say like me..I am 61...guess I would just have to get a hole and climb in...smile!! Sandy <strong>Sometimes I wonder that too... Luckily I have some time left before that experience... *lol* And 61 is no age - I saw a Swedish woman on TV last night, she is 97 and still an aerobic instructor for elderly several times a week!!! My god, she wasn't still for more than a minute or two! Remarkable women. She was in better shape than me....</strong> Well that is just SAD…what happens to the people as they age then..say like me..I am 61…guess I would just have to get a hole and climb in…smile!! Sandy

Sometimes I wonder that too… Luckily I have some time left before that experience… *lol* And 61 is no age - I saw a Swedish woman on TV last night, she is 97 and still an aerobic instructor for elderly several times a week!!! My god, she wasn’t still for more than a minute or two! Remarkable women. She was in better shape than me….

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by: Sandy http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6849 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:33:33 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6849 actually what helps me the most is STRETCHING...Have you done that? There are some really great stretching DVD's. Do you have a DVD player? I could see about sending one of the DVD stretching DVD's to you if you like and see if it would help your back. I just know that stretching has helped mine...BUT it takes time. You have to do them EVERY day.....This Social Insurance Agency can MAKE you go? REALLY!! Hmm! Sandy <strong>Lifecruiser: That is so sweet of you Sandy. Yes, I've done that too, but maybe it's not the same stretchings. What's the name of the DVD? Maybe I can get a hunch of it by that or get it here myself. Stretching is one of the things that can have an influence too. It's necessary because if the muscles gets too short you can end up with a lot of problems. Just as you have to have abdominal muscles and leg muscles to relieve pressure of the back. Yes, Social Insurance Agency can MAKE me go, if the handling officer not is listening to me. What they do in that case is to threaten to not pay out my insurance money. Without them life would be tough. They have done that to others. The problem is that we have gotten a higher number of people on sick leave over here and instead of wonder WHY and maybe do something about that, they sharpened the rules. They kick on the poor ones that already is laying down. I'm not surprised that people get more ill, it's an awful stress nowadays. We have a lot of burned out people among other stress or load related sicknessess. </strong> actually what helps me the most is STRETCHING…Have you done that? There are some really great stretching DVD’s. Do you have a DVD player? I could see about sending one of the DVD stretching DVD’s to you if you like and see if it would help your back. I just know that stretching has helped mine…BUT it takes time. You have to do them EVERY day…..This Social Insurance Agency can MAKE you go? REALLY!! Hmm! Sandy

Lifecruiser: That is so sweet of you Sandy. Yes, I’ve done that too, but maybe it’s not the same stretchings. What’s the name of the DVD? Maybe I can get a hunch of it by that or get it here myself. Stretching is one of the things that can have an influence too. It’s necessary because if the muscles gets too short you can end up with a lot of problems. Just as you have to have abdominal muscles and leg muscles to relieve pressure of the back.

Yes, Social Insurance Agency can MAKE me go, if the handling officer not is listening to me. What they do in that case is to threaten to not pay out my insurance money. Without them life would be tough. They have done that to others.

The problem is that we have gotten a higher number of people on sick leave over here and instead of wonder WHY and maybe do something about that, they sharpened the rules. They kick on the poor ones that already is laying down. I’m not surprised that people get more ill, it’s an awful stress nowadays. We have a lot of burned out people among other stress or load related sicknessess.

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by: Happy and Blue 2 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6846 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:12:02 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6846 I always wondered where pot holders came from. Could you make me a blue one before Christmas.. Just kidding. Hope they come to their senses and provide you with proper care.. <strong>Lifecruiser: Thanks. I only think they made pink ones, will that do? You can always close your eyes...?</strong> I always wondered where pot holders came from. Could you make me a blue one before Christmas..
Just kidding. Hope they come to their senses and provide you with proper care..

Lifecruiser: Thanks. I only think they made pink ones, will that do? You can always close your eyes…?

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by: Sandy http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6844 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:36:07 +0000 http://lifecruiser.org/health/2006/10/13/dig-big-back-cracks/#comment-6844 Do you HAVE to go to this place? It just sounds awful!! ARe you going there so that you can get back in the work force? I am trying to understand WHY you went there in the FIRST place. It sounds horrible!! I would not go there IF I did not have too. I think that your hubby has all of the right answers. I have back trouble too. Standing too long, sitting too long hurts but exercise seems to be the right thing for me. I am in Curves here in the states. Stretching and exercise and losing weight has helped more than any medication so far has helped. I have been in pain for over 15 years now. Sandy <strong>Lifecruiser: I don't know yet Sandy. It's the social insurance agency that sent me there and we'll see what they says when I get hold of my handling officer over there. They can force me to go there, they have done that to others, so I'm prepared of that, but not accepting it, simply because it's just not possible for my back to handle it. I've been exercising on my own and I also found some special McKenzie movements that has helped me a lot in the more acute situations. Exercise especially helped in the beginning up to a certain level. If I hadn't done those two things, I would never have gotten so far as I have. And I'm stubborn! *lol* But then after that it seems that there is nothing more to do. Operation is no option, there is no good prognosis. </strong> Do you HAVE to go to this place? It just sounds awful!! ARe you going there so that you can get back in the work force? I am trying to understand WHY you went there in the FIRST place. It sounds horrible!! I would not go there IF I did not have too. I think that your hubby has all of the right answers. I have back trouble too. Standing too long, sitting too long hurts but exercise seems to be the right thing for me. I am in Curves here in the states. Stretching and exercise and losing weight has helped more than any medication so far has helped. I have been in pain for over 15 years now. Sandy

Lifecruiser: I don’t know yet Sandy. It’s the social insurance agency that sent me there and we’ll see what they says when I get hold of my handling officer over there. They can force me to go there, they have done that to others, so I’m prepared of that, but not accepting it, simply because it’s just not possible for my back to handle it.

I’ve been exercising on my own and I also found some special McKenzie movements that has helped me a lot in the more acute situations. Exercise especially helped in the beginning up to a certain level. If I hadn’t done those two things, I would never have gotten so far as I have. And I’m stubborn! *lol*

But then after that it seems that there is nothing more to do. Operation is no option, there is no good prognosis.

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